Whoopy Doo for the wooly buggers! This year we have been fishing high country lakes in Canterbury New Zealand for browns and rainbows with bead head buggers in green, black, yellow and hot orange. In cold water fish deep, in warm water fish top layers with a fast strip and in hot go down deeper still and slow. Results an average of 6 fish per person per trip, best brown 8 1/2 lb best rainbow 5 1/2 lb. They just love em!
This is a great article but could you please explain how you identify the But and Midsection of a leader in relation to calculating it's percentage of the overall length?
One of the differences is, that the Kvennan stretch is upstream of major damming. So, the waterlevel is more predictable than the Koppang part of the river. Another difference is, that the Kvennan stretch is not as wide as it is in the Koppang region. And in the Koppang area the motorroad is (on an averige) not as close to the river as it is in the Kvennan area. Whether the "fly only" zone really is an advantage for flyfishers remains to be seen...... From extensive personal experience I know, that the stretch of river in the Koppang area is really far form crowded by fisherman. So, good fishing spots are relatively easy to be found. On top of that: graylins is abundand in the stretch of river between Atna and Koppang. Exemplars of over 40 cm. ar far from rare......As for me, there is and preference for the Koppang area. But that is just a personal opinion......... This also has to do with the difference in landscape; the Koppang area could be described as more "rocky" and somewhat more attractive. Oh and the Kvennan area is about 130 kms north from Koppang. If you like travelling by public transport, it will be great! So, all in all, my preference is clear enough. But you Stefan has to decide for yourself.
Kind regards,
Hans
I never have seen such a nice video before... Flyfishing at its finest..
chears Paulo
[quote:6a966037cc]I read an article my Mike Connor (?) on the UKSWFF with regards to flyfishing in Funnen and his reasoning which does make sense to me was that intermediates are better when fished in saltwater due to the density of the water. Floating lines are typically designed for freshwater which has a different density to salt water. Typically a floater will sit much higher up in saltwater & you'll run into the problems that Wiggy pointed out to. [/quote:6a966037cc]
If you want to get technical...
The Baltic Sea's salinity is much lower than that of ocean water (which averages 3.5%, or 35 parts per thousand), as a result of abundant freshwater runoff from the surrounding land; indeed, runoff contributes roughly one-fortieth its total volume per year, as the volume of the basin is about 21,000 km³ and yearly runoff is about 500 km³. The open surface waters of the central basin have salinity of 6 to 8 ‰.
Below 40 to 70 m, the salinity is between 10 and 15 ‰ in the open Baltic Sea, and a fraction more than this near Danish Straits.
And...
The Baltic receives the drainage from a large part of northern Europe,
including Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, northern Germany, and nearly all of Sweden.
As a result of this drainage and of the restricted channel to the North Sea,
the surface water of the Baltic contains relatively little salt-only a third as much salt
as the Atlantic Ocean-and the salinity shows a tendency to decrease toward the west and north.
And then...
The Baltic Sea is so nearly landlocked (and its outlet so shallow) that its waters are remarkably fresh. Its longest rivers, the Vistula and the Oder, drain regions that have a temperate continental climate; they have low evaporation rates and become swollen by spring snowmelt, thus further reducing the salinity of the Baltic. The highest salinity is recorded in the western Baltic, where it is about 10 parts per thousand at the surface and about 15 parts per thousand near the bottom; the lowest is at the head of the Gulf of Bothnia, where it is less than a third of this amount.
The Baltic, sheltered from the strong North Sea tides, is remarkable for the general absence of tidal currents.
There's also this article. Although no comments on salinity, you can "gestimate" the low salinity if the predominant direction of the current is north.
http://globalflyfisher.com/global/denmark/tide.htm
A standard WF/Floating line will do fine.
Regards
Ripley
i used to buy my popping bugs from a company called ultimate poppers but they have gone out of business i was told. do you sell them or know a good company to get them from. i want a good quality one that doesnt fall apart after 10 fish like the ones you buy at walmart. thank you
I read an article my Mike Connor (?) on the UKSWFF with regards to flyfishing in Funnen and his reasoning which does make sense to me was that intermediates are better when fished in saltwater due to the density of the water. Floating lines are typically designed for freshwater which has a different density to salt water. Typically a floater will sit much higher up in saltwater & you'll run into the problems that Wiggy pointed out to.
Vassenden,
thanks for your reply.
In the meantime I've read on the website www.kvennan.com about river Glomma between Tynset and Tolga. They talk about a special fly fishing zone. .... sounds good.
Do you (or anybody else) know this stretch of the river? Any comparisons to Koppang area?
Stefan
Jesper,
poin tis that state gives you a right to fish and even names a price to particular river and so on, but local office just ignore the orders from center....
as Ole (who lives in Moscow) sais"everybody who does not know the country (and in this way does not know how things work in Russia) should not judge''
I been in Russia 10times, i have many friends in Russia who are really professors in flyfishing and more to that i know how all Russian flyfisherman are confused by conflict between law creating and law effecting institutions... even having a license in hand you can be cocidered as poacher, just because you didnt fill up close your licence properly...
Rolandas
P.C
sorry for gramma
Q. When the smaller tube is inserted into the larger tube (prior to tying), is there some sort of cement that is used to secure the inner tube within the larger one?
I wholeheartedly agree with palmi; in Alaska where I live, more than 30 % of the salmon harvested in the commercial fisheries are produced in one of the 27 industrial-grade hatcheries in the state. These are marketed as wild fish, when they are in fact spawned with rubber gloves in plastic buckets and hatched in concrete raceways. The ecologic and biologic impacts to truly wild stocks have been inadequately assessed because the State of Alaska has refused to do so. The real tragedy is that we humans seem to be having an increasingly difficult time discerning the real from the artificial. We like to fool the fish with artificials, but we are the bigger fools for accepting artificial fish in place of wild ones..
Hi Stefan,
Take the train from Gardermoen airport to the village of Koppang; the norwegian NSB site will tell you how to arrange for that. Keep in mind to book "minipris"; this will save you a lot of money. Contact the owner of Koppang and arrange for housing; at their website you will find out about that. The owner of the camping is a Dutchman; no doubt he will be able to answer your questions in English and/or German.
Koppang camping is located at the border of the river Glomma; you may walk upstreams or downstream to find nice fishingspots. Getting nice fish will not be all that difficult.....
There is a flyfishing guide available through the campingowner; getting to know this river takes time (a lot) and why trying to invent the wheel during your holiday? Anyway, you can do without the fishingguide, but I would recommend to make use of him for at least a day or two. He also will advise you about the rigth flies by then.
Kind regards,
Vassenden
Hi Stefan,
Take a look at Kvennan camping and Koppang camping Both situated next to the Glomma and a well known in my country (Netherlands) for fishing grayling. Never been there myself so i can't tell you first hand but it must be both beautiful and good fishing (if i can believe the story's)....
Good luck and have fun!
This is mine version of the Oland shrimp, also inspired by the GFF "Pattegrisen".
I have added al foam back instead of antron or plastic, to prevent the fly for turning upside down.
The fly is weighted enough to still sink, but at the bottom it will just sit on its hookpoint and hookeye.
When the trout "sniffs" at it, it will be hooked.
Igmar
http://fotoalbum.roofvisforum.nl/foto/40475.jpg
No flyrod, not very friendly handgrip, hmmmm, wrong website?
Igmar,
that seems to work. The originator of the fly, Claus Eriksen, has also tied some with foam for tricky rainbows in shallow water. I will add a photo later.
It would be great to see some photos of your sea bass/trout in the forum as well as your variants of Pattegrisen . Keep us posted!
Kasper
I have read a lot about not handling pike through the gills as them and Muskee use these differently then other fish. Handling these fish like this greatly reduces that chances of survival upon release.
hey man, that last one looks good. I can't wait until this weekend when I'm going for my first (wtf, this late?!) trip of the year. Hopefully the water will clear up a bit and the pre-spawn madams will be hungry as ever before.
Me and Jan spoke about going down to your very flat and crowded country for some pike and maybe zander fishing.
about the seabass, check out the site www.fishingimages.com for some really nice seabasspics, and maybe a good project for a trip this summer...
peace
Kasper,
I did it like you told me to and it worked very well. The "original Oland "pattern turned about 50% of the time up side down. Your way worked much better, now the fly was about 80% of the time in the right position (not up side down). But being an perfectionist, I wanted to have it 100% of the time in the right position. The solution is very simple, The only thing I have changed in your pattern was replacing the antron back for a "salmon coloured" foam back. Cut like in the shape like Oland does. Because of the weighting the fly will sink rapid, but the foam back give enough pressure to keep the back on top. And the hookpoint will just slightly touch the bottom if given time to sink down all the way. It is so deadly, in the Netherlands the trout of the Oostvoornse Meer like them very much (even when there are at this moment no shrimps left in the lake). In mid April I will throw the improved shrimp in the Baltic. With all confidence.
Thank you for this wonderfull pattern! It has become my favorite!
Hi, I've been trying out a Snowbee XS WF6ND (sink fate 1.14-1.86 ips) in stead of my regular WF6F on the Danish coast. To be honest I can't really feel much difference, the Neutral Density line basically floats in the salt, although Danish coastal waters are not that salty (around 10 ‰, I think).
Cheers,
/atli
It was tied in tribute to an American TV actor - William Conrad I believe. I can look up the reference. Email me and I will look for you - bob_petti@yahoo.com. Thanks.
Wiggy, Thanks for your reply. Yes, you are right, the line has clear intermediate tip. it is very interesting. A lot of Czechs go every year to Denmark and a majority of them use intermediate line and low weighted flies. We usually retrieve quite fast, so I would say that the fly is in upper level of the water. So in my opinion, the main reason for usinng floater is the sea weed. But I must also confess, that I fished some places where the floater seems to me better.
I am glad for any reply which can clarify this interesting issue. So thanks
Primarily three lines are often used for sea trout for a variety of reasons, so here goes:-
Floating line - Mainly used in areas where water is shallower or slow shelving (e.g. most of denmark from the shore), for floating flies, or at night when presenting a fly in the very upper layers of the water give a better silhouette and a better chance of a fish seeing the fly. Though a floating line has large control issues in windy weather and has poorer wind cutting properties due to it's diameter in comparison to weight.
Slow Intermediate (0.5ips) - A good line for allround fishing in shallower water and eliminates the wind effecting the line and thus having direct contact with the fly.
Fast Intermediate (1.25-1.75ips) - A good allround fly line for deeper water and fast shelving beaches (e.g. most of Norway). This is the line I use 95% of the time, plus it's clear thus be less visable, though this can be discussed. Due it's faster sink rate, you can present you fly at various deaths by just waiting a bit though may be too fast for shallower areas. A good caster due to it being relatively thin in comparison to it's weight.
Now I've no idea as to where you fish yourself, but your line sounds fine for most situations and even better if it's a ghost tip i.e. the tip is clear.
If you have any more specific question, fire away!
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